Americans, Does This Scare You?

TecK NeeX

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- After more than three years of combat and over 2,400 U.S. military deaths in Iraq, nearly two-thirds of Americans aged 18 to 24 still cannot find Iraq on a map, a study released Tuesday showed.

The study found that less than six months after Hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans and the Gulf Coast, 33 percent could not point out Louisiana on a U.S. map.

The National Geographic-Roper Public Affairs 2006 Geographic Literacy Study paints a dismal picture of the geographic knowledge of the most recent graduates of the U.S. education system.

The study, which surveyed 510 young Americans from December 17 to January 20, showed that 88% of those questioned could not find Afghanistan on a map of Asia despite widespread coverage of the U.S.-led overthrow of the Taliban in 2001 and the political rebirth of the country.

In the Middle East, 63 percent could not find Iraq or Saudi Arabia on a map, and 75 percent could not point out Iran or Israel. Forty-four percent couldn't find any one of those four countries.

Inside the United States, "half or fewer of young men and women 18-24 can identify the states of New York or Ohio on a map [50 percent and 43 percent, respectively]," the study said.

When the poll was conducted in 2002, "Americans scored second to last on overall geographic knowledge, trailing Canada, France, Germany, Great Britain, Italy, Japan and Sweden," the report said.

Also from the report:

Fewer than three in 10 think it important to know the locations of countries in the news and just 14 percent believe speaking another language is a necessary skill.

Forty-seven percent could not find the Indian subcontinent on a map of Asia.

Nearly three-quarters incorrectly named English as the most widely spoken native language.

Thirty percent thought the most heavily fortified border in the world was between the United States and Mexico.

My Opinion: Bahahaha
 
#2
"It is in war, Americans learn geography"

A well-known journalist back in the early 1900's said this. Can't remember his name for the life of me. But I guess he was wrong.
 

S O F I

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#3
Well, geography is not everybody's strong suit. But, hey, your point came accross.

My opinion: Yet another Muslim that takes every chance he gets to diss the American people. :)
 

SiGh

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#4
Polls = bullshit.

How do we know that the 510 students that took the poll wasnt high at the time? How do we know the poll wasnt online on a site, where there WAS a disclaimer saying "take this seriously" but random people came thru and fucked it up. How do we know that the students who took the poll werent random ass city where theres like 1000 people tops?

So if I went to the uk or somewhere overseas and went into a park and took a poll of 100 people of how many of them can find a few places on a map (ie: afganistan). And if only 20 of the 100 found afganistan i can say: oh ONLY 20% of the people living in the UK know where Afganistan is. Its a damn shame a country full of people dont know the simplest things.

Just cuz nation geography released a "study" we're all suppose to be like "OMG, thats fucked up, I cant believe the US doesnt know shit"

Inside the United States, "half or fewer of young men and women 18-24 can identify the states of New York or Ohio on a map [50 percent and 43 percent, respectively],"
^wow...:rolleyes: Cmon now who we kidding ourselves. This article is the biggest bulshit, I've ever read.

I wont deny, yes ALOT of people dont know where iraq is or afganistan is, but just bcuz a bunch of kids took some poll and shit, it doesnt represent the rest of the country.

510 repping for 230 million. Yup, thats a winner. :rolleyes: :thumb:

Sidenote: Last year, I was in london for a month, and 9/10 person I bumped into there had fucked up teeth.
Conclusion drawn: 90% of people from london have fucked up teeth.
:laugh:
 

SiGh

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#5
I know i rambled on for a bit and shit, and theres prolly a BUNCH of flaws in the little details I said, but instead of editting it, ima just let it be. My main point got across, thats all dat matters.
 

Kareem

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no it doesnt worry me, i know where Iraq is, all too well. an every other country mentioned in that article, i swear the people they are asking to find these countries an do these tests are special ED students.
 

Jokerman

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I take the results of this survey as a positive, pro-American thing..

Asked where Iraq was one girl in her twenties, clearly pondering a greater philosophical question, asked: "Is Iraq even in the world."

A burly construction worker barked: "Don't know, don't care, they'll be nothing left of it soon anyway."

YEAHHH!
 

The.Menace

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Sigh, of course this IS a poll and nothing more, not the total truth....but I think it does show a certain tendency - and what I can say from my experiences, it's like that. I mean, in America forgein languages aren't taught the way they are taught in other countries, can't deny that....
 

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Im not American but personaly im more worried about Asian kids in the u.k. being drawn into Holy war and commiting terrorist acts than U.S. kids not knowing where Sweden is to be honest .
 

TecK NeeX

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SiGh said:
Polls = bullshit.

510 repping for 230 million. Yup, thats a winner. :rolleyes: :thumb:
Lol, Arent you happy they never asked the question what the population of the United States was? 230 million, close enough you're only about 70 million off. You're not doing very well to debunk this study, You've only removed doubt regarding it's credibility :laugh:

That poll sure is a winner!
 

SiGh

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^ is it really 300 million right now?

the.menace...how is it taught in other countries?
are u saying english is taught in other countries more intensively? or just in general, the study of other languages.
 

Duke

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SiGh said:
^ is it really 300 million right now?

the.menace...how is it taught in other countries?
are u saying english is taught in other countries more intensively? or just in general, the study of other languages.
Yeah, it's like 298 million this summer. But that's splitting hairs, your point stands. 510 out of 298 million is the same as 510 out of 230 million basically.

And yes, other countries, most notably the non English pay more attention to foreign languages. Personally I've had up to 6 years of English and 5 of French and German.
 

XIAN

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I have no idea how accurate this poll is, but they probably chose scattered 510 to get a somewhat accurate picture, just like they do in Gallop and USA Today and all that. They can't poll 200 million people...
 

TecK NeeX

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Duke said:
Yeah, it's like 298 million this summer. But that's splitting hairs, your point stands. 510 out of 298 million is the same as 510 out of 230 million basically. .
If these 510 people were randomly picked i dont see how the percentages would decrease or increase for that matter, for all we know the 510 people picked could very well be among the smarter Americans. So we can't assume these numbers will decrease if they polled more people.

underdog said:
get off americas nuts
Tell that to the Americans that conducted this poll, anyways truth hurts doesn't it?
 

Jokerman

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This is not a surprise. Most Americans have never known much about geography. Especially, students. (Their liberal geography teachers are too busy telling them Bush is like Hitler to teach them geography.:mad: :D )
 

Duke

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TecK NeeX said:
If these 510 people were randomly picked i dont see how the percentages would decrease or increase for that matter, for all we know the 510 people picked could very well be among the smarter Americans. So we can't assume these numbers will decrease if they polled more people.

You make no sense?

Sigh pointed out that 510 out of 230 is very not accurate. You hopped on his nuts bagging on him that it's 300 million these days. I reaffirmed Sigh's point. 510 people is still not enough to get an accurate picture, be it 230 or 298.



for all we know the 510 people picked could very well be among the smarter Americans. So we can't assume these numbers will decrease if they polled more people.
For all we know the 510 could've been picked from the dumber Americans. So we can't assume these numbers will increase if they polled more people.

Other than that, you're right. We can't assume it will decrease. As such, I don't assume it all. I'm just saying that it's not an accurate study nor an accurate poll.
 

Shahin

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Duke said:
You make no sense?

Sigh pointed out that 510 out of 230 is very not accurate. You hopped on his nuts bagging on him that it's 300 million these days. I reaffirmed Sigh's point. 510 people is still not enough to get an accurate picture, be it 230 or 298.





For all we know the 510 could've been picked from the dumber Americans. So we can't assume these numbers will increase if they polled more people.

Other than that, you're right. We can't assume it will decrease. As such, I don't assume it all. I'm just saying that it's not an accurate study nor an accurate poll.
The survey was conducted in 2002 with similar results, so I'd say it's pretty safe to assume americans on average are less knowledgeable than other westerners when it comes to geography.
 

XIAN

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http://www9.nationalgeographic.com/roper2006/findings.html

The official site^ I think NG is probably very good at polling...

I'm not surprised I think that Americans have their own little hobbies and interests and for young people, geography is not one of them.

Does it scare me? Hmmm. I think that when the world becomes an interest for the youth, geography will follow. I believe that with globalization and continuing desegregation we will learn more about the rest of the world, the interest will grow, and geographical literacy will hopefully rise.

My step-brother went to Orlando (from NY) for his eigth grade class trip and we were talking about how when we are older our kids will be going to Japan! Hopefully they'll know where that is... ;)
 

TecK NeeX

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Duke said:
You make no sense?

Sigh pointed out that 510 out of 230 is very not accurate. You hopped on his nuts bagging on him that it's 300 million these days. I reaffirmed Sigh's point. 510 people is still not enough to get an accurate picture, be it 230 or 298.
You need to relax?

Obviously Sigh didnt think i was offending him with that post. Just thought it was ironic to make that kind of error in this thread of all. I was clearly joking with that post anyway, so no need for you to hop on my nuts for him

For all we know the 510 could've been picked from the dumber Americans. So we can't assume these numbers will increase if they polled more people.
Id hope it doesn't, the numbers are high enough as they are, Also the poll may not be accurate but it sure tells us something
 

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