Adoption rights for unmarried couples

k69atie

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Unmarried and same-sex couples can now adopt children under a new law that's come into force.

The historic change allows both adults to become a child's adoptive parents.

Previously, only married couples or single people could apply for adoption.

The Adoption and Children Act becomes law three years after it was passed by Parliament.

The British Association for Adoption and Fostering (BAAF) called it "the most radical overhaul of adoption law for 30 years".

Chief executive Felicity Collier said: "These changes will have a major impact on thousands of families. Opening up adoption to unmarried partners will encourage more people to consider adoption."

She added that too many children spent too long in temporary care waiting for an adoptive family.

And in some cases they never had the chance of adoption at all.

The new Act also introduces special guardianship orders for other carers.

Foster carers, relatives and others caring for a child can now apply for a special guardianship order which is expected to last until the child is 18.

The move would mean that the child was no longer the responsibility of the local authority.

Other measures include allowing birth mothers the right to trace an adoptive adult through an intermediary service.

Source www.skynews.co.uk

Do you think this is a good/ bad idea?
 
#2
Ill answer out from the topic name.
I cant see whats wrong with unmarried people getting an adopted child? you can still be a couple without being married.

I cant really answer about same sex. but i do know that i wouldnt want to be that child.
 
#4
I think it's a great idea. I have never understood why a couple in a loving relationship who would want to have a child aren't allowed to adopt because they are of the same sex, while a 12 year old can have a child with a crack addict any day of the week without the government saying shit. Just ridiculous, really.
 
#6
FroDawgg said:
^^^why wouldn't u want to be a child of a same-sex couple? they're just as loving and nurturing as heterosexuals.
Im not saying that its not ok.
I cant explain why, but it wouldnt feel "normal" to me.
If i was raised with same sex parents i would probably think different.
 

S O F I

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#7
^Think different about what? If anything, your thinking would be much better.

Like Glockmatic said, if they can raise a child properly, no problem.
 

7 Syns

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#8
Same sex parents, well that just makes the child in the future get traumatised. From being teased, from trying to understand when he's 7/8 why he has 2 daddies or mommies. Im not gay bashing, more power to them. But no one seemed to really think through this and think inside the childs position.

It's enforced and all and like I said I don't mind gay people at all, but if this is going to bring the kid suffering from over-teasing shit and beatdowns (which will 70% of the time happen) then it's not worth it.

peace.
 

Glockmatic

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#9
7 Syns said:
Same sex parents, well that just makes the child in the future get traumatised. From being teased, from trying to understand when he's 7/8 why he has 2 daddies or mommies. Im not gay bashing, more power to them. But no one seemed to really think through this and think inside the childs position.

It's enforced and all and like I said I don't mind gay people at all, but if this is going to bring the kid suffering from over-teasing shit and beatdowns (which will 70% of the time happen) then it's not worth it.

peace.
well if you think that way, they shouldn't let minorities go to all-white schools or vice-versa. As a kid I was teased for being asian, but I don't feel traumatised. Same sex couples will soon be the norm, and there will be no problem with them in our society.
 
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7 Syns said:
Same sex parents, well that just makes the child in the future get traumatised. From being teased, from trying to understand when he's 7/8 why he has 2 daddies or mommies. Im not gay bashing, more power to them. But no one seemed to really think through this and think inside the childs position.

It's enforced and all and like I said I don't mind gay people at all, but if this is going to bring the kid suffering from over-teasing shit and beatdowns (which will 70% of the time happen) then it's not worth it.

peace.
Kids will always find something to tease other kids about. Adopted kids will get bullied no matter what their parents are like. The solution isn't to say "You're not flawless parents, so you can't adopt a child". The solution is to teach kids about different types of families, to promote tolerance.
 
#11
S O F I S T I K said:
^Think different about what? If anything, your thinking would be much better..
I dont get your last comment? would my brain function more properly if i had same sex parents are what? j/k

Nah, what im saying is, me personally, i wouldnt want same sex parents, why is that so wrong to say? im only being real about it.

Im not saying im against gay couples or something, but i wouldnt want to be a child in such a family.

S O F I S T I K said:
Like Glockmatic said, if they can raise a child properly, no problem.
And thats fine with me too.
 
#12
Nah, what im saying is, me personally, i wouldnt want same sex parents, why is that so wrong to say? im only being real about it.
I gotta say the same, i dont think gays should be able to adopt because it puts the child they adopt in a difficult situation, hows that child going to feal when he or she sees two men or two women kissing? and will that influence their behavior? i dont mean to sound like a prick but thats how i see it, I dont see any problem with unmarried couples adopting as long as they can provide a stable life for the child, unwed parents are so common that it makes no differance.
 
#13
BADBOYKILLA20 said:
I gotta say the same, i dont think gays should be able to adopt because it puts the child they adopt in a difficult situation, hows that child going to feal when he or she sees two men or two women kissing?

The same way you feel when you see your parents kiss. You only think of "normal" cause you've been taught by your position in society. What's normal for you doesn't mean it's normal for the laws of the universe. A kid raised by gay-parents will see them as normal until idiots that will laugh at him cause of his parents.

and will that influence their behavior?
What about that? Do you think his parents will tell him to find another gaypartner? People become who they already were. If influence was so easy then you wouldn't see any gays cause I don't think people actually wanted their children to be gay but they became despite having heterosexual parents. To claim that the child will be gay cause of his gay-parents is an idiotic statement that holds nothing.
 
#14
BADBOYKILLA20 said:
I gotta say the same, i dont think gays should be able to adopt because it puts the child they adopt in a difficult situation, hows that child going to feal when he or she sees two men or two women kissing? and will that influence their behavior? i dont mean to sound like a prick but thats how i see it, I dont see any problem with unmarried couples adopting as long as they can provide a stable life for the child, unwed parents are so common that it makes no differance.
If those kids aren't taught that it's "evil and sinful and wrong" then why would they think anything of seeing two men or two women kissing?

Will it influence their behaviour? It's not going to make them gay, but it might make them more tolerant.
 

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Minardi said:
I dont get your last comment? would my brain function more properly if i had same sex parents are what? j/k

Nah, what im saying is, me personally, i wouldnt want same sex parents, why is that so wrong to say? im only being real about it.

Im not saying im against gay couples or something, but i wouldnt want to be a child in such a family.



And thats fine with me too.
What I meant by "your thinking would be much better" is that you'd see the world from a slightly different perspective, a more tolerant one, maybe?
 

Pittsey

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#16
I don't know. I'm unsure on my stance on both.

If they are committed enough to adopt a child why are they not prepared to get married to show that committment to the world. If you want the rights of a married couple then you should get married. And that is coming from someone who isn't a fan of marriage. I just think if you are going to adopt a kid, you should be prepared to show you are committed to your partner. Otherwise they should make it easier for single people to adopt too.


And I'm undecided on the gay part too. It isn't natural, and you can't argue with that. However I do agree that a lot of same sex partners would do a better job than some other parents. I guess if society is more tolerant there should be no problem. But then like others have said, I wouldn't feel comfortable with lesbian mothers or gay fathers. Hypocrtical I guess.
 

Sebastian

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#17
Glockmatic said:
If they can raise a child properly, they should be able to.
lol, thats just one sentence and it seems so easy but i highly doubt it is so easy to prove.

Pittsey said:
If they are committed enough to adopt a child why are they not prepared to get married to show that committment to the world. If you want the rights of a married couple then you should get married. And that is coming from someone who isn't a fan of marriage. I just think if you are going to adopt a kid, you should be prepared to show you are committed to your partner. Otherwise they should make it easier for single people to adopt too.
what if both are not religious and therefore they dont want to marry?
 

Glockmatic

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#18
beReal said:
lol, thats just one sentence and it seems so easy but i highly doubt it is so easy to prove.
If couples who cannot have children because of health reasons can adopt a child I see no reason why a same sex couple can't. They'll go through the same processes as any other person. Its not hard to do, people just complicate it because they think homosexuals are so different from us when they're really not at all
 

S O F I

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#19
beReal said:
lol, thats just one sentence and it seems so easy but i highly doubt it is so easy to prove.



what if both are not religious and therefore they dont want to marry?
Marriage is a legal union of man and woman, and in some countries, man and man. Although religion plays part in marriage, and especially in wedding ceremonies, religion does not cause marriage, so to speak.
 
#20
7 Syns said:
Same sex parents, well that just makes the child in the future get traumatised. From being teased, from trying to understand when he's 7/8 why he has 2 daddies or mommies. Im not gay bashing, more power to them. But no one seemed to really think through this and think inside the childs position.
I think they are trying to look at it from the child's position. Potential adoptive parents are severly scrutinized to ensure a safe and stable environment for children. That way a child may be placed somewhere that they will be loved and cared for. And if same sex parents can provide that, it should be encouraged with the full fledged support of society. That kind of scrutiny is a better deal than a hell of a lot of other children get... if only all potential parents were 'screened' - perhaps there would be less neglect, abuse or just plain dysfunction in the home.
 

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