9-11

keco52

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#1
I've been thinking a lot about 9-11 a lot lately. I don't know why...that it had nothing to do with terrorism...I know I'm slow but if anybody knows books or websites or have researched it could you give me some resources?
 

PuffnScruff

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#6
Duke said:
Loose Change is laughable. Period.
I knew there was a reason I liked you. Big thumbs up

Loose change tells more lies and distortions than the u.s. Govt has ever told

You want to see a good movie about terrorisim watch a docu called obsession.

if you want 9/11 fact, not the conspiracy theories, I'll post some when i get home
 

keco52

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#7
PuffnScruff said:
I knew there was a reason I liked you. Big thumbs up

Loose change tells more lies and distortions than the u.s. Govt has ever told

You want to see a good movie about terrorisim watch a docu called obsession.

if you want 9/11 fact, not the conspiracy theories, I'll post some when i get home
K thank you much
 

PuffnScruff

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#9
the loose change video was done by some community college drop outs and a guy who was kicked out of army basic training. i have known some dumb people that have gone through army basic and they all say that in order to not make it through basic training you have to be extremely lazy or just flat out dumb as fuck

with that said loose change often cites american free press as a source of info. american free press is run by anti-semetic white supremacist. so if you want to take the claims of biggots and racist to heart go right ahead.

here are some sites you can start with.
http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Sep/16-241966.html

http://www.911myths.com/index.html
this site has sublinks that go into more detail with photos and examples

http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html
havent looked at the updated version of this but the draft version had alot of sarcasim

http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/

http://www.coping.org/911/survivor/pentagon.htm
eyewitness account

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1

http://www.debunking911.com/

http://www.geocities.com/factsnotfantasy/

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_pentagon_eyewitnesses.html
eyewitnesses

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/CAREER/trends/09/11/witnesses/
more eyewtinesses

http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm

http://news.uns.purdue.edu/UNS/html4ever/020910.Sozen.Pentagon.html
great work by purdue university

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=1
great popular mechanics article, its long, but good read, the authors recently put out a book smashing the CT's

http://www.jmu.edu/alumni/tragedy_response/read_messages.html
and yet more eyewitnesses

now you said you dont think 9/11 had anything to do with terrorism, why do you think that? what do you think it was about?

http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/
this is a docu that has to do with radical islamic terrorists. it goes into some good detail with history that goes back before ww2.

http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/timeline.htm
also read through the timeline.

another documentary called FahrenHYPE 9/11 is worth watching, pretty much shitting on fat man moores film and pointing out his lies

celsius 44.1 is another one sort fo like FahrenHYPE but its has a little more of a pro bush point of view with some rebuplican points of view, but it does point out some good facts and has an interesting timeline of terrorists attacks going back decades.
 

Duke

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#11
What has always puzzled me, is that the CT's think the US govt. is involved in this massive, massive scheme to blow up their own civilians and get oil and all kinds of horribleness, while if that was true, it'd be the poorest dark op the US govt. ever attempted :laugh: As if it would be worth it.

As if a huge conspiracy involving thousands of people from all kinds of layers of life can be kept silent for years, but then a pimply faced kid with a laptop manages to expose it all?

90% of the CT's are so lost in staring blind on the US govt. and what they did or didn't do, that they don't realize nothing about their theories makes sense at all. And that's not even touching on the ignoring and twisting of simple facts about 9/11.
 

Duke

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#12
Tupac Tha Great said:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1757675023015548120

Can some1 explain what im supposed to c in this video.
Ah yeah, brilliant. What it shows is one of the aircraft flying into the WTC tower. As the plane hits the wall of the tower, a small flame is visible, most likely created by the "first touch" of the plane smashing into the wall.

When you visit the site it has hazy pictures of a 707 with an extra shadow on it's hull.

This, according to the CT's, proves that the plane was carrying military equipment, maybe even a missile!


I don't even know how they reached such conclusions.

1.) If the shadow is a pod, it's twice as big as the biggest fuel pod the US Air Force has. What the hell should it be then?
2.) Why stuff a missile onto an aircraft that you're using to crash into something anyway?
3.) If that little fireball was from a missile from that pod, it was the most pathetic flash i've ever seen from such a huge pod.
4.) Commercial airliners don't carry military pods. Period. You'd need a lot of time making modifications and they didn't have that (oh wait, the site also claims flight 175 wasn't flight 175, lawl).
5.) Why risk adapting a commercial airlines to have a missile, then fire the missile in the building you're about to crash the plane in, with the whole risk of blowing the operation wide open to the first dipshit with internet access?

And I could go on for hours. It's hilarious that those CT's don't realize that if their government was really hiding something, the CT's wouldn't know shit about it because it wouldn't be a weird, rewardless see-through operation intended to splice up your conspiracy theory skills.


Conspiracy bullshit pisses me off.
 

PuffnScruff

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#13
Duke said:
What has always puzzled me, is that the CT's think the US govt. is involved in this massive, massive scheme to blow up their own civilians and get oil and all kinds of horribleness, while if that was true, it'd be the poorest dark op the US govt. ever attempted :laugh: As if it would be worth it.

As if a huge conspiracy involving thousands of people from all kinds of layers of life can be kept silent for years, but then a pimply faced kid with a laptop manages to expose it all?

90% of the CT's are so lost in staring blind on the US govt. and what they did or didn't do, that they don't realize nothing about their theories makes sense at all. And that's not even touching on the ignoring and twisting of simple facts about 9/11.
exactly, the ct's dont even realize that if the govt was in on this whole thing it would involve dozens of govt agencies, hundreds if not thousands of people working in the govt, and at least two countries (the u.s. and canada). i highly doubt that many people could keep a secret much less be down for something on this scale.

i used to know of a list that compiled all of the govt agencies that would be in on it, i wish i could find it again. it's probably in one of those links
 

PuffnScruff

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#15
that doesnt really make any sense. if you decide to allow something to happen, like the events of 9/11, then you basically are in on it. if you allowed it to happen then that means you had advanced knowledge of what was going to go down before hand which means you would be in on it directly
 

Duke

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#16
I don't think they "allowed" it to happen, but they handled it poorly though. More could've been done to prevent it.

Although that's easy to say in hindsight. Nobody was expecting something like it.
 

Duke

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#17
Oh, and that mysterious "missile pod" beneath the plane...


http://www.81x.com/Authors/green1/object_filtered.JPG

is not a missile pod of course.

Let's view the underneath of a 757, shall we?



Notice the bulge in the hull near the wing construction? That's the joint section of the plane, where the hull and wings meet and as such it's the strongest part of the aircraft.

Another clear picture of the bulge:




Now, the reason it looks like a "pod" in the video is because the sunlight falls on it from the side (the plane is banking like 70 degrees), causing one side of the bulge to be brightly lit and the other side blacked out when it hit the tower. That's why it looks like a pod.

When we review the silly video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1757675023015548120) from 7 seconds onward, notice the left bottom picture of the plane. No pod, just a bulge. Then as it nears the tower and catches the sunlight, notice the bulge becoming a "pod"?

This just goes to show what kind of arguments these CT's use to validate their silly theories.
 

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